67. My Maine Birth: A Planned Maine Home Birth turned Hospital Birth, Olivia’s Story
Olivia: 0:00
I was at the Augusta hospital because they allow VBAC and I had never met the doctor before. I just got, like the doctor that was there because I didn't have any care with them, and he was like well, you have to push on your back, which I really did not want to do. Yeah, I, that was not what I wanted to do. I wanted to stand. So I wanted to stand in the spot, like that's definitely what I would have done if I had the choice. But he wanted. He was like no, you have to lay on your back, so that's what I had to do. And I I was like I have to push now.
Olivia: 0:36
So I pushed and I only pushed for like 14 minutes and she came out and she was tiny but perfectly healthy. She like cried right away and they gave her directly to me. They didn't take her away, which I was really worried about because she was you know, I was only 36 weeks, so I was worried that they would just like immediately take her away, but they didn't. They handed her right to me. My husband cut the cord, we got to keep the placenta and she stayed with me the whole time. They didn't take her anywhere.
Angela: 1:07
I'm Angela and you're listening to my Maine Birth a space where we share the real life stories of families and their unique birth experiences in the beautiful state of Maine, from our state's biggest hospitals, the birth center births and home births. Every birth story deserves to be heard and celebrated. Whether you're a soon-to-be mom, a seasoned mother or simply interested in the world of birth, these episodes are for you. Today's birth story guest is Olivia. Today's birth story guest is Olivia. Olivia shared her first birth story back in episode 16, so go check that out to hear part one of her story, because she is back today to share all about the recent birth of her daughter, who was born at 36 weeks happy and healthy. Hi Olivia, welcome to my Main Birth.
Olivia: 2:09
Good morning. Good morning, Hi Olivia. How are you doing? I'm good.
Angela: 2:16
How are you? Oh my goodness, everything's going well, you're doing good.
Olivia: 2:24
Yeah, yeah, everything is good. Uh, she came a little bit early.
Angela: 2:28
I'll tell you the whole story, but yeah, everything is good, awesome well, to jump right in, you shared your first birth story in episode 16 of the podcast of your first son, and at the time you were pregnant. Why don't you tell me a little bit about when you found out you were pregnant and your thoughts in choosing your care this second time around?
Olivia: 2:51
Yeah. So I had my first son and then we got married. So we wanted to wait a little bit to have another baby and then I got pregnant and I actually lost that baby pretty early on and then I think two or three months later, I got pregnant again and we were very, very excited over the moon. And before I was pregnant with her, maine had passed a law that if you wanted to have a VBAC at home with a midwife that was legal Before that it was illegal and you would not be able to have a certified midwife there with you. So I was super excited about that, because with my first I did have to have a C-section because he was breached and wouldn't turn.
Olivia: 3:35
So I was super excited to have the opportunity to have a home birth with my midwife that I had originally been working with and that's Rebecca Kohler. She's in Whitefield, she's like our town midwife. So as soon as she has a wonderful apprentice who is a very dear friend. So as soon as I was pregnant I let them know and I was like, so excited to be planning for a home birth. So that is what we decided to do. We had moved and we live in a different house than when I was pregnant with my son, and so we live on this really beautiful property, and so I was so excited to be able to have a baby here in our really nice house on this like beautiful land. So that was what we were planning for. Spoiler alert that didn't happen, but I'll tell you why later?
Angela: 4:23
Yeah, so how was your pregnancy, how are you sort of feeling like initially and what were your like that look like yeah.
Olivia: 4:30
So I had a like pretty routine pregnancy. It was much different than my first in that I was super nauseous from about, like honestly, from like five weeks on, and I kept being hopeful that my nausea would go away, because with my son I was only nauseous from like maybe like eight weeks until 12 13 weeks, and so this time it started at like five weeks, so it was like barely pregnant and then it literally I was literally nauseous until I gave birth to her oh my gosh, did you find out you were having a girl this time around, or was it a surprise?
Angela: 5:06
I did we.
Olivia: 5:07
So I was like this pregnancy is so, so different and we had already talked about finding out the gender.
Olivia: 5:12
This time we both really wanted a girl because we have a boy and our our town you can talk to a midwife about it, but our town has like a almost like a curse, where most of the babies that are born in our town are boys. It is very far and few between that that it's a girl. So we were like it's you know, like probably we'll have another boy, that's fine, we're going to love the baby no matter what. But we had already talked about we were going to find out if it was a girl and because I was having a VBAC, they needed to at the ultrasound make sure that my placenta was not on my scar from my C-section. So we went to the ultrasound at 20 weeks to do the anatomy scan and we were like, okay, we would like to find out if it's a boy or girl and we were super excited that it was a girl and I was like, oh, this makes sense why this pregnancy is so much different than with my first.
Angela: 6:08
Wow, that's really interesting. I had the same thing. I had two boys and I was not sick at all and then I got pregnant with a girl and I was like the entire pregnancy like so nauseous.
Olivia: 6:16
Yes, literally until I gave birth to her. I was so nauseous and I ended up taking B6 and Unisom every night. And at one point in my pregnancy I was like, oh, I'm feeling a little bit better, Maybe I don't need to take this anymore. And I didn't take it one night and the next day I was so sick and I was like, okay, well, I guess I just have to keep taking this every day. So I literally just took B6 and Unisom until I gave birth to her, Because it but I didn't have I didn't have any cravings with her. Food was just like the last thing that I wanted to eat. So I was very excited when I did give birth and I could finally eat again.
Angela: 6:54
Wow. So what were your thoughts going through this pregnancy, having been planning for a home birth with your first, but then, because of the breach presentation, you ended up having a C-section. So how was your mindset working through that?
Olivia: 7:12
And like, what were your thoughts as you were preparing for birth? I mean, I was just really excited to have the opportunity to have a birth at my home, like I wanted to. And then also I was like a little bit nervous, in that I had I have been in labor before but I haven't like labored and I had not given birth vaginally, so I was there, was this like bit of nervousness, and then I always was also a little bit worried that she would be breached and then I would have to end up with the C-section again. When we went to the 20 week appointment I asked what like position she was in and the ultrasound technician was like, oh, she's all over the place. She's flipping upside down, right side up, all over the place. And I was like, okay. So then we went to, I think, the 30, 30 week, 32 week ultrasound to check and make sure once again. They wanted to make sure that, like the placenta was not near my scar and it was like on the back of my uterus, far away from like as far away from my scar as could be. So I was like this is so silly, but that's fine, because we want to make sure that she'd head down. She was like in the like perfect position to be head down, which was just great. So at that point we were moving toward actually having a home birth, like we had planned. So we had just met with my midwife and then we were setting up like.
Olivia: 8:28
The 36 week appointment is generally the one where you make sure that you have all your stuff together. You have, like your box, your anyone that's going to be at your birth. They ask to come to that meeting so that everyone can kind of like talk and be on the same page about how everything will go. That's like so I would visit right with her. Yeah, a home visit. So you're supposed to, you know, and at 30 by 36 weeks you should have like and they tell you like, have your backpack and have which we weren't going to do because you're going to be at home and have your like car seat installed in your car and all of these things like you know, like find your baby clothes, if you have them, or make sure you have some baby clothes or some diapers or all of these things to like prepare for your baby. They're always like oh, do it by 36 weeks.
Olivia: 9:18
And with my son I went into labor at I think it was 39 and 39 weeks and four days, five days. So it was like pretty close to my due date and so at that point we were like fully ready for him this time. So we had our, our meeting scheduled. My mom was coming up and my sister-in-law, who is a photographer, she was going to come up and take pictures, and so we were going to have I was going to meet the other midwives that would be on call, and so that was supposed to be on a Thursday. Was this after your baby shower? Because we, it was after my baby shower. So I had my baby shower. That was at 33 weeks, 34 weeks. Right after we did our photos, we had the baby shower.
Angela: 10:03
That was like right around Halloween, I think right.
Olivia: 10:06
Right, so it was. We had it like two weeks before Halloween, so my 30 I would have. I was 36 weeks on November 3rd, that was, I was exactly 36 weeks on November 3rd, so November 2nd was supposed to be our 36 week appointment, where my mom's coming from the baby shower, still like in the boxes, you know everything boxes we have like baby know, all of our baby clothes are still in boxes all over the place.
Olivia: 10:39
Some of it is still at the other farm. All the like baby things, like the bassinet or the swing, All of those things are also still at the other farm. Because I wasn't even 36 weeks yet. Because I wasn't even 36 weeks yet. So on Wednesday, the 1st of November, I woke up and I went to work and started feeling really terrible at work and I was like this is so strange. And so I was feeling really nauseous, like more nauseous than before, and I, I like, was working. I went outside, I fed the animals, I came back inside and I was working on the computer and I was like man, I really don't feel good. And then I, and then I threw up and then I laid on the couch at work and my friend who lives there, she came down and she was like, oh my gosh, are you okay? I've never seen you lay down before down. And she was like, oh my gosh, are you okay? I've never seen you lay down before. And I was like I don't know, I don't feel good. And so I ended up going home from work that day and I threw up.
Olivia: 11:47
For two days. I had like this horrible stomach flu that I've never had a stomach flu like that before ever, and I was trying to drink as much water as I could but I was still. But I was just throwing it all back up. So I know that I was super dehydrated and so we ended up canceling my appointment on Thursday because I was sick, and if I was contagious I didn't want to get anyone else sick. So I was and also I just like did not feel well. We canceled that appointment. And then Thursday night I was finally able to like eat some food, just like a little bit of food. I ate like a soup. And then on Friday morning I woke up and I felt I wasn't nauseous anymore and I was like, oh man, I finally feel better, I'm gonna go to work today. And so I woke up at like. When I also woke up and I was like, oh, I'm feeling so much. I had like what felt like a cramp. And then I was like, oh, it's fine, it's probably just like Braxton Hicks. Like I like moved a little bit and it went away and I was like, okay, totally fine. And then when I got that was probably at like five o'clock in the morning was when I had the first, like cramp, and then I like had a few more, but they were super sporadic and not close together, and I was like, ah, it's probably just Braxton Hanks, it's fine I'm. My body is super dehydrated, I know this. I'm like trying to drink as much water as possible. I go to work.
Olivia: 13:08
My husband also works where I work. He on this was a Friday, this was November 3rd. Um, he goes, we're at the warehouse and I'm getting him ready to go. He's gonna go drive down the coast and deliver cheese and all the things. And he had to go all the way to Saco that day. And so we're at the warehouse and I was like, well, just so you know, I'm like having some, maybe, contractions, like I think it's just Braxton Hicks, it's totally fine, you should go to work, it's fine, I'm not in labor. And he was like, okay, which is exactly what I said last time. And I had to call him at work and be like I need you to come home because I'm in labor. And so you know, I sent him off and I was like it's fine, I'll keep in contact with you, it's totally fine, you have a short day today, so even if I need you to come back, like you have enough time to go do all your deliveries, it's okay. And so I started timing, timing my contractions and they were like anywhere from like five to 10 minutes apart and I was like, okay, this is still like pretty inconsistent, like it's not, I don't think it's real labor yet. And so I had my son with me.
Olivia: 14:18
We go to there's like this little local store that has like baked goods and all kinds of stuff. So he really wanted a donut. So that's what we normally do on Fridays is we go get him a donut, so we go in there. And my midwife and her apprentice happened to be there at that time. So I talked to them and I'm like you guys, just so you know, I'm like having some contractions. And they're like, okay, here's what you should do Go home, drink as much water as you possibly can, take a bath and see if your contractions go away in the bath. And I was like, okay, I will do that. So I get home, I take a bath and they did slow way down when I was in the bath. I had like a couple contractions while I was in there, but as soon as I got out, they got closer together and so then they were every like four to five minutes apart and I was like, okay. So I get my midwife and I say, hey guys, now they're like four or five minutes apart and they're like lasting for like a minute and they were like, okay, well, you're exactly 36 weeks. You can't have a home birth at 36 weeks. You have to be 36 and six days. And I was like, okay, great. So they were like okay, this is what I think you should do. You should go to the hospital. You might not be in labor, you might just be really dehydrated. Go to the hospital and get fluids at the very least, because we know you're dehydrated. You could get fluids and your labor could stop. And I was like great.
Olivia: 15:52
My midwife was like on her way to, I think with Cassit when this was happening, but then her apprentice, who's also a really good friend, was like I can meet you at the hospital. I'll be there at the same time you are, because the hospital is like 20 minutes from my house. So I call my mom and I'm like Mom. I was like what are you doing today? And she's like oh, I don't have any real plans? Why, what's going on? And I was like, oh, I think I might be in labor. Can you come up here and take care of Atticus? And she was like, oh, yes, of course you should start with I think I'm in labor before you ask Like, just tell me that you're in labor. And I was like, okay, I think I am. And then I call my friend who runs the pharmacy and she's she lives at the same property. Our houses are connected to each other.
Olivia: 16:39
And I say this is basically the same thing. I'm like, hey, jessie, uh, what are you doing? And she's like I'm just hanging out with the horses. What do you need? And I was like, oh, I think I'm maybe in labor. And she was like, oh, do you need me to drive you to the hospital? And I was like, yes, please.
Olivia: 16:52
So we go to the hospital. They knew I was coming, my midwife had called them, and then we get there. My contractions are like still the same. They're close together, they're monitoring me. We got there at like two-ish maybe, and then I think the doctor came in to check me at like two-thirty-ish, three-ish, and I was six centimeters dilated. And they were like oh, you're for sure having a baby today and I was like, okay, great. So I had called my husband and I was like, hey, I'm going to the hospital, there's a pretty good chance that we're going to have a baby today. And he was down in Portland. I was like finish your deliveries and then come back, come to the hospital. He's like come back, come to the hospital.
Angela: 17:38
He's like driving the delivery truck to the hospital.
Olivia: 17:40
He did. Yeah, it's the van, but yes, he did drive the delivery truck to the hospital so he was on his way. My mom did come. She was there, my midwife's apprentice was there, and then Jesse was there. She ended up taking Atticus with her when I was I don't know, I was definitely in like active labor and so they're like we're gonna go so he can like be out. It also he's two and a half, so being in the hospital was hard for him. He just wanted to like touch everything. So we were at the hospital.
Olivia: 18:14
I hung out in the tub for a little while. That was nice, and then I was like I just really needed to stand. Every time they made me lay down I hated it and I was was fine. It never. It never dropped or got too fast or anything. Her heart rate was perfect the whole time.
Olivia: 18:41
So my water didn't end up breaking at all. They ended up breaking it. My husband finally arrived at like five, five, 30. And then they checked me again and they were like okay, you're nine centimeters dilated. Now you're going to have a baby soon. So they broke your water before he got there. No, my water still hadn't broken. So they checked, they texted me. I was at nine centimeters, my water still wasn't broken at all and she hadn't like come down in my pelvis at all because the water was holding her up. Basically, water was holding her up basically, and I was hesitant to have them break my water, because I did, because I know that that puts you on like a timer of you know, your water's been broken for this long. We're gonna have to do interventions or something. So I was hesitant to have them break it.
Olivia: 19:32
But they checked me at like probably right after my husband got there, and it was nine centimeters, and then I just kind of like stayed at nine centimeters and she didn't come down anymore Until I think they broke my water at like seven ish. Finally, like I had, I had only been in labor for like 14 hours. So this was super, super. I had only I got there at two, two o'clock. So everything happened very quickly, which I was surprised about because it was like, because we were talking about how this was the first time my body was actually going through labor. So even though this was the second time I've had a baby, it would be more, my labor would probably be more like a first time labor. So you know, I was expecting to be in labor for like several days maybe, but no, it just happened really really fast. So I think at like seven ish I was like, okay, you guys can break my water, since I'm still just sitting at the same space. She hasn't come down anymore and I'm still the same. Like I'm still nine centimeters dilated, so they break my water, which was great. It felt like so much pressure was relieved.
Olivia: 20:45
And then I was like, oh man, I really need to push. And so I was at the Augusta hospital because they allow VBAC and I had never met the doctor before. I just got like the doctor that was there because I didn't have any care with them, and he was like well, you have to push on your back, which I really did not want to do. Yeah, I was. I, that was not what I wanted to do, I wanted to stand. So I wanted to stand in the spot, like that's definitely what I would have done if I had the choice. But he wanted. He was like no, you have to lay on your back, so that's what I had to do. And I I was like I have to push now.
Olivia: 21:25
So I pushed and I only pushed for like 14 minutes and she came out and she was tiny but perfectly healthy. She like cried right away and they gave her directly to me. They didn't take her away, which I was really worried about because she was, you know, I was only 36 weeks, so I was worried that they would just like immediately take her away, but they didn't. They handed her right to me. My husband cut the cord, we got to keep the placenta and she stayed with me the whole time. They didn't take her anywhere. She did have jaundice, which is like super common in most babies and especially in preterm babies. I did some research after and like 80% of preterm babies have jaundice.
Olivia: 22:07
So while we were there she had to have a little UV lights. They have like this little blanket that they put on them. So we did that and then we were able to go home. But they wanted us to come back and check her levels again and they had gotten super high. So we had to actually be readmitted and she had to go under these really big lights for a whole night, which was, I think, traumatic for me, not for her. She was fine, which was, I think, traumatic for me, not for her. She was fine and I got to go with her, but it was mostly that I had to go back to the hospital and leave my son at home with my husband and he was very sad and so that was really hard. But we just spent one more night there and she was fine after that. So it all happened very quickly and once again it was not at home. But we're getting closer to that.
Angela: 23:01
Maybe for the third one. Third time's a charm, right, that's what.
Olivia: 23:03
I said. I said that to my mother. I was like, well, third time's a charm, right? And then I also was like, well, it also happened very quickly. And they were like, yeah, we're going to come camp out at your house when you get close. But, like I said, we were not at all like prepared for her, like we didn't have any diapers yet and we didn't like I hadn't found all her clothes. So I had to like send my mom home to be like, can you find these clothes in this box? I think they're maybe in this closet, I'm not really sure, because my whole plan had been to get everything ready that weekend and when I was sick too, I that was like that week I was like, oh, I'm gonna start getting ready because it'll be 36 weeks, and then this weekend I'll like get the car seat out and get the swings out and like make sure I know where everything is and wash everything. So I there was some scrambling on our part, but they found everything. She has clothes to wear.
Angela: 23:57
She had diapers, it's fine you don't need any of that to give birth to a baby, right?
Olivia: 24:03
no, you don't. Yeah, so it was just um, it was very surprising for all of us, um, but everything it was fine. You, you know she's healthy and happy and yeah, we're all good now.
Angela: 24:20
Oh my goodness. So how was your? I know it's still. How old is she?
Olivia: 24:24
now she's she'll be four weeks old tomorrow, right? So she'll be four weeks old tomorrow wow.
Angela: 24:34
So how have these past few weeks?
Olivia: 24:36
been. Yeah, it's been good. Um, that first week when I so I went on on Friday, we had to stay Friday night and Saturday night and then we ended up staying Sunday night too, and then we came home for two nights and then we went back to the hospital. So that first week I like I don't really know what happened that first week it was definitely like a whirlwind. But since then we've just been home, trying to adjust for everyone to being four person family and having a new member.
Olivia: 25:08
My son will be three in February. So we're having a lot of big feelings about everything Not necessarily baby related, but he's got a lot of big feelings about everything. Not necessarily baby related, but he's got a lot of big feelings about everything. But he does love her and he wants to hold her all the time and he gives her kisses and he wants to pick her up and he can't wait to play with her and you know all of that. So he's very excited. But it is definitely a big adjustment for him as well. But it's been really nice to just be home.
Olivia: 25:35
I went on maternity leave like a month early, uh, which kind of like left my co-workers all kind of in a lurch, but everything it's been fine and my husband and I have had time off together, which has been really nice because we haven't had any time off. We haven't had any, we don't have, um, our schedules are opposite, so that somebody can be hanging out with Atticus at all times and just like the nature of our jobs, so we've had no days off together since July, um, and so it's been really nice to have, like spend time together and spend time as a family, just kind of hanging out and figuring out how everyone's doing all that bonding. Yeah, yeah, so it's been really good. It just all happened so quickly.
Olivia: 26:26
Yeah, like, when was your due date? So? So my due date was December 1st, so tomorrow, which I did think she was going to come a little bit early. I thought she was going to come a little bit early. I thought she was going to come around Thanksgiving. That was my like gut feeling, but we think that because I had the stomach flu, my body just like was so dehydrated and just that put me into labor.
Angela: 26:49
Yeah, yeah, I definitely hear that sometimes with mamas, like if you're in those final last weeks and you get a sickness, like even if you have any kind of sickness, it's like you can're in those final last weeks and you get a sickness, like even if you have any kind of sickness, it's like you can go into labor early yeah, and it was the weirdest stomach.
Olivia: 27:02
I mean I don't. I don't generally get sick, I'm generally pretty healthy. I think it's because I spend my time rolling around with animals outside, so it's very infrequently that I will get sick, and I have never had a sickness like that, where I was just like throwing up for days.
Angela: 27:19
It was horrible um, like, what a way to go into labor.
Olivia: 27:22
Like already not feeling good and then, well, right other thing is that, like I was super dehydrated, they gave me so many fluids at the hospital they were like surprised at how dehydrated I was and I was like, well, I haven't had anything. I haven't like eaten anything or had anything you know, for two days.
Angela: 27:41
Yeah, that's hard. So now, as a final question if you were to give advice to someone who is expecting, or even new parents, what would be the biggest thing you would say?
Olivia: 27:55
I would say you know, each pregnancy is going to be so different and each birth is going to be so different, and you can plan all you want, but you have to be prepared for things to go not exactly how you want them to or how you're planning for them to. I'm a really big planner, I love planning, and both times my body or my children, I think have just been like Nope, this is not what's happening, you are not in control, it is not your. You don't get to plan this. We're going to come however we want. So they both come in with like big personalities. I think that's the number one thing. And then also, it's okay to ask for help from people If you, when you need it, like you know, maybe you don't have everything ready. So you can say hey, I would really love it if you could come and hang out with us for a little bit while I take a shower or while I. You know, come, do some dishes for me. Or it's okay to ask for help. And then I mean, yeah, just take advantage of any of that.
Olivia: 29:03
I know that this time I, when I was at the hospital, I asked more questions than I had asked last time with my first son. He had a tongue and lip tie and so, which was undiagnosed for a while, I didn't know to ask about that. And then this time, I think, while we were at the hospital, I met with three different lactation consultants and I was like, can you just check her and make sure she doesn't have a tongue and lip tie? And like, does she look like she's gaining weight? Like are we moving in the right direction? Because with my first, I knew a lot about breastfeeding. I knew a lot about babiesfeeding. I knew a lot about babies, but I had no idea about a tongue and lip tie and I it wasn't even on my radar, and so when he wasn't gaining weight, that was really scary. This time she's gaining weight, Great, and she doesn't have a tongue and lip tie and breastfeeding is like so much easier than it was the first time.
Olivia: 29:50
But yeah, I would say, having children makes you have to give up a lot of control because they are their own beings Mostly. They definitely come into this world or at least my two came into this world definitely with their own ideas and opinions on things. Yeah, that's so funny. Yeah, I mean I just I think that kids definitely are their own people, and I think some of them know that right from the beginning. So we're doing it my way. Mom, exactly Both of my kids have been like, well, this is happening this way and uh, I don't care that you've planned this other thing. This is what's happening now. Happening now so, but they both have very strong-willed personalities, which is great. It's a little challenging, but it's great oh my goodness, yeah, I love it.
Angela: 30:48
And yeah, it's like everything. Every person is different. Every birth experience is different. It's really like sometimes you're like planning your second. I mean, I know, maybe not in your case you're planning something totally different, but a lot of times mamas are like I want to plan, you know, you know imagining it like it's going to be the same thing, and you're kind of imagining this, you know you're kind of original plan for your first two. Right, didn't your mom sort of have similar stories too, wasn't she?
Olivia: 31:15
Yeah, so she my mom tried to have. My mom had three babies. We're all breech and we were all C-sections With my brother. She was in labor for like two days and tried to have him at home. She also had really big babies. All three of us were large. My brother, when he was born, was almost 11 pounds, so he was huge and breech so he was not coming out that way. Um Atticus was seven pounds and three ounces, I think, when he was born. Um and Elsie was six pounds 10 ounces. So if she had been full term she probably would have been like eight pounds maybe, but she's just a tiny peanut really it was it.
Angela: 32:00
It kind of comes back to the the law too, for both of your sort of birth experiences. The first time you're not able to, at home, like with the support that you chose with a legal licensed midwife, have a breach home birth. And then the second time there's that like if you were six more days or if they calculated it a little differently.
Olivia: 32:23
Right, I know, and I did just hear from my midwife, that there's something in the legislature coming up soon where they're trying to not allow you back at home anymore, so hopefully that won't pass. I told her to let me know if there was like a petition or anything, or like they need people to come in and I don't know talk about how the law should stay in effect, um, and that they shouldn't change it. But yeah, um, I'll let you know if I hear anything else, but I did just hear that from my midwife that there might be some changes to that in the future oh my gosh.
Angela: 33:01
Yeah, please do let me know because I would love to help spread the word about that also if there are any petitions or whatnot going around. Yeah, I'll absolutely let you know um moms deserve to give birth where they choose to give birth and with the support that they want yeah, yeah, yeah.
Olivia: 33:17
So yeah, I'll let you know if I hear anything more about that.
Angela: 33:21
Oh, my goodness. Well, this has just been such a pleasure talking with you and catching up, and I'm so happy for you.
Olivia: 33:30
Thank you. Yeah, she's pretty perfect, we're in love.
Angela: 33:37
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